Purpose?
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What is the purpose of having EH?
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To discuss christian doctrines, theology and issues?
Hopefully it can be this way
Also, to make frens.... -
I see ugly debates. Is it necessary to discuss christian doctrines, theology and issues here when both sides diverge?Originally posted by laurence82:To discuss christian doctrines, theology and issues?
Hopefully it can be this way
Also, to make frens.... -
if its just discuss theology and doctrines per se, its seriously alrightOriginally posted by happyharvest:I see ugly debates. Is it necessary to discuss christian doctrines, theology and issues here when both sides diverge?
but when doctrines and theology touches on sensitive issues. how?
look at the debate over homosexuality in another topic
for me personally, its the evangelism aspect which is a major issue
u wouldnt want to question the other guy faith, but when his faith requires him to spread the gospels, and some overzealous guy went so far as to question other faiths or to discuss other faiths, then how?
it not only places non believers in conundrum, but also some christian frens of mine, who knew as a christian they have to spread the faith, but refuse to do so lest it touches on sensitive issues regarding other faiths...
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From what I can see, both sides argue from their point on view. For Christians, obviously they will answer the issues biblically. As for non-christians, most likely they adopt the view point from society and the world ba.Originally posted by laurence82:if its just discuss theology and doctrines per se, its seriously alright
but when doctrines and theology touches on sensitive issues. how?
look at the debate over homosexuality in another topic
for me personally, its the evangelism aspect which is a major issue
u wouldnt want to question the other guy faith, but when his faith requires him to spread the gospels, and some overzealous guy went so far as to question other faiths or to discuss other faiths, then how?
it not only places non believers in conundrum, but also some christian frens of mine, who knew as a christian they have to spread the faith, but refuse to do so lest it touches on sensitive issues regarding other faiths...
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When a christian do not wish to use the world's POV to explain their own Christian beliefs.Originally posted by happyharvest:From what I can see, both sides argue from their point on view. For Christians, obviously they will answer the issues biblically. As for non-christians, most likely they adopt the view point from society and the world ba.
~My little thought~
What more can a Christian expect from a non believer to understand the scriptural POV?
Doesn't make sense.
Methodology of evangelism is questionable.
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Yeap, really true, but the issues i refer to is real world issues, such as homosexuality and evangelism to non believers. As for other issues such ranging from the authority of the Pope or on baptism, eucharists and such, i dont think non believers have a share in them.Originally posted by happyharvest:From what I can see, both sides argue from their point on view. For Christians, obviously they will answer the issues biblically. As for non-christians, most likely they adopt the view point from society and the world ba.
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yah .. and as Christians u have to live in an earthly world but believe and follow biblical truths.. so its toughOriginally posted by laurence82:Yeap, really true, but the issues i refer to is real world issues, such as homosexuality and evangelism to non believers. As for other issues such ranging from the authority of the Pope or on baptism, eucharists and such, i dont think non believers have a share in them. -
Yes, we hold two citizenships. It is a struggle...Originally posted by ben1xy:yah .. and as Christians u have to live in an earthly world but believe and follow biblical truths.. so its tough -
Hmm...strangely. I don't see it as tough. Or at least, it's not a struggle.Originally posted by happyharvest:Yes, we hold two citizenships. It is a struggle...
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It seems you are beginning to think highly of yourself? Or has I interpret wrongly? hmm.....Originally posted by M©+square:Hmm...strangely. I don't see it as tough. Or at least, it's not a struggle. -
no we as Christians only hold one citizenship. We live in the world but are not of the world.Originally posted by happyharvest:Yes, we hold two citizenships. It is a struggle... -
Hardly see that in the behaviour of so called christians nowadays...Originally posted by breytonhartge:no we as Christians only hold one citizenship. We live in the world but are not of the world.
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If Christianity is a personal relationship with God.Originally posted by happyharvest:It seems you are beginning to think highly of yourself? Or has I interpret wrongly? hmm.....
Then the ideal kind of life will be wholly living a life acceptable onto God.
That's why when my father discussed with me about struggles in a christian walk. I'll always raise my eyebrow.
To make sure that your own life is walking right is more important than to take care of things which are not essential to your personal relationship with God.
When each man is made right.
The world will be right.
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According to the Bible there are two citizenships; one is worldly and the other heavenly.Originally posted by breytonhartge:no we as Christians only hold one citizenship. We live in the world but are not of the world. -
If we can wholly live a life acceptable onto God in this world, the bible will not talk about resisting temptation. God knows that the influence of the world is great but He has allowed us to be tested not beyond what we can stand.Originally posted by M©+square:If Christianity is a personal relationship with God.
Then the ideal kind of life will be wholly living a life acceptable onto God.
That's why when my father discussed with me about struggles in a christian walk. I'll always raise my eyebrow.
To make sure that your own life is walking right is more important than to take care of things which are not essential to your personal relationship with God.
When each man is made right.
The world will be right.
Cheers
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Having to have a personal walk with God and resisting temptation are two different emphasis. Depends on how you look at it ba. Notice that the epistles do not place their emphasis on sins and temptation more than having loving and godly attitudes.Originally posted by happyharvest:If we can wholly live a life acceptable onto God in this world, the bible will not talk about resisting temptation. God knows that the influence of the world is great but He has allowed us to be tested not beyond what we can stand.
Maybe few people can do that in this world. I don't think I'm one of them.
It is not impossible.
Maybe we are not in the days of Acts. Too comfortable in this 21st century.
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I agree with you it is not impossible but it is definitely not easy for many. Having a personal walk with God means having a God dependant life, right? But sometimes we may deviate from the walk and then God will call us back........Originally posted by M©+square:Having to have a personal walk with God and resisting temptation are two different emphasis. Depends on how you look at it ba. Notice that the epistles do not place their emphasis on sins and temptation more than having loving and godly attitudes.
It is not impossible.
Maybe we are not in the days of Acts. Too comfortable in this 21st century.
Cheers
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indeed. Comfy life bring alot of excuses.Originally posted by happyharvest:I agree with you it is not impossible but it is definitely not easy for many. Having a personal walk with God means having a God dependant life, right? But sometimes we may deviate from the walk and then God will call us back........
Ya, maybe we are living in the 21st century....
in fact, it is utter dependance.
Haha.
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i dont think many of us are willing to give up our present life and be a carpenter like joseph
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Times have changed le.A very warm welcome to all! It will be indeed a pleasure to get to know all who frequent this forum
Eternal Hope. A place where we look for hope or provide hope. Indeed, my hope is in Christ, Son of God and Giver of Life. I hope that through this forum, we can share how wonderful God has been in our lives.
Also, it would be a place where we can encourage each other and a place to pray for each other
I welcome all, believers and non-believers, to read and contribute to this forum (even topics other than Christianity)
From sillyme (06 July 2003 · 08:01 PM ~ Eternal Hope) -
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well, believers and non believers still contribute...
but nobody pray for each other liao, look at the topic on katrina, its talks abt retribution and stuff.... -
aiyoh ... why so much negativity?
come on.. stay optimistic dude!
EH is good!
ooo and sorry for not contributing much these days ... busy marking papers .. the uni mid-sems were juz over .. will be pretty busy over the next week or so -
Ya, me bad me bad.Originally posted by ben1xy:aiyoh ... why so much negativity?
come on.. stay optimistic dude!
EH is good!
ooo and sorry for not contributing much these days ... busy marking papers .. the uni mid-sems were juz over .. will be pretty busy over the next week or so
Maybe I have higher expectation.
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Generally, EH's purpose is stated here http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=51143 ; a place for fellow believers to discuss and encourage. Divergence of opinions cannot be avoided but we can do it amicably
