is it possible for non-christians to be with christians?
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ok, let me sum up my points,
Catholism and Christianity (well if dont like), protestants, have differences in their thinking and "culture", else they wouldnt be separated to two different denominations in the first place right?
1st, it always seems that Catholism or the catholics are more conservative and traditional, but my views are exact opposite. They tend to be more open-minded that christians. Perhaps due to differences in their perceptions.
Most christians i know are extremely "wholesome" to God, anything good they attribute it to God, blah blah blah......etc, but catholics seems to have a more independent mind.
At least 90% of my christians and catholics friends fits into this.
Dun flame me, just my 2 cts worth.
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ahem.. first off a disclaimer: i did not read through all the replies, only the first few in the first page
next, my 2 cents: christian + christian does not guarantee a good/long r/s. christians are still human. christain + non-christian does not mean absolute disaster. there is such a thing called acceptance and tolerance.
personally i want my future husband to be a christian not becos some elder or pastor say any other way is a no-no; but becos for me, my God is numero uno. if my other half cannot share my number 1 passion, i find it difficult to carry on. this is not extreme loh, just take a simple example : to have a nuclear or extended family unit. if one party absolutely wants to stay with parents and take care of them, while the other die die wants to stay as a nuclear family unit, they will clash just becos their number 1 priority is different.
i've got married frens who are christian + christain, christian + buddhist, free-thinker + free thinker, free-thinker turn christian + watever, and all have their own heartaches and happiness. i don't 'condamn' christian + non-christian relationships, all i do is lend a listening ear when my fren said to me in tears 'Don, now i know why we have been advised not to marry a non-christian'.
i guess the most important thing is to know wat you want, wat is important to you and follow your heart. and for those who are oready married to a non-christian, don't think that you have chosen wrongly, show your other half christian love and continue to trust in God. God loves you and you and you and you
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On the bit about practices being different, you are right. I didn't catch the drift about being more "independent"...Catholics also believe that all things are in the hands of God but you just don't hear them say so.Originally posted by nightzip:ok, let me sum up my points,
Catholism and Christianity (well if dont like), protestants, have differences in their thinking and "culture", else they wouldnt be separated to two different denominations in the first place right?
1st, it always seems that Catholism or the catholics are more conservative and traditional, but my views are exact opposite. They tend to be more open-minded that christians. Perhaps due to differences in their perceptions.
Most christians i know are extremely "wholesome" to God, anything good they attribute it to God, blah blah blah......etc, but catholics seems to have a more independent mind.
At least 90% of my christians and catholics friends fits into this.
Dun flame me, just my 2 cts worth. -
where on earth did this come from?!?! no such thing as a MUST convert. believing in God is a personal choice, not a 'just becos i want to marry my gal/boyfren' thing. duh!!!Originally posted by nightzip:yup, from what i know RC does not require their spouse to convert.
Its only the Christians who must require their spouse to convert!
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aiyoh i first to disagree. so many reasons why pple break up or kenna rejected. some is for the better of the people involved loh. it really depends on individual
Originally posted by wei^yi:If someone reject another coz of religious matters, that person is heartless.
Religions don't teach us to reject others who are different religion from us.
Am I right to say this ?
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Pope = Jiao4 Huang2 (sect emperor) Benefitting if you know the meaning of the label Pontifax Maximus.Originally posted by laurence82:btw wads the title Pope in Chinese?
Hmm masada? Is that the hill fortress the Zionists hide and the Romans laid siege to?
In the chinese translation for 'The Da Vinci Code', the bishop chief from Opus Dei is Jiao4 Zhu3 (sect chief) while the cardinals are called Zhu3 Jiao4. Actually bishops are also zhu3 jiao4, but since he was head of Opus Dei, they called him sect chief.
Ya, Masada is the most famous hill fortress in Israel. It was where the zealots (zionist is too mild a word) made their famous last stand against the Romans in 70 AD. (remember what Jesus said about what would happen?) The zealots rather commited suicide than fell into the hands of the invading tropps. So they killed the women and children, then killed each another, then the last man killed himself.
The Jewish soldiers nowadays (is this still the practice?) go up the hill and swear the oath - "Never again Masada", to signify their determination not to let the Zionist state fall again. -
They seem to be conservative and liberal in different areas. For example, Catholics won't argue to their grave on creationism, don't stress on evangelism like the Protestants (some groups), but Catholics take very strong stand on abortion, cloning, euthanasia etc.Originally posted by nightzip:1st, it always seems that Catholism or the catholics are more conservative and traditional, but my views are exact opposite. They tend to be more open-minded that christians. Perhaps due to differences in their perceptions.
One thing I learnt is one can learn from the different groups - ethical issues from the Catholics, scriptural study from the baptists and presbyterians, pneumatology from the charismatics etc.
Just think lor, if you're kind who don't quite emphasize on demon/spirit possession then one day you see someone in that 'state'. Then what you do? Stunned and just stand there? -
In short, catholic history is older than christian, and they held fast to church procedures and rituals. Christian r seperated from them, and they stick with the bible more closely. Tat is why catholic fight on traditional thingy such as abortion, masturbation and pre marital sex while christian fights on things such as speaking in tongues, creationism and tat earth is young
No matter which side is it, they both held on to the way of the old. My advice is to just follow your own moral compass on wat is right or wrong. Surely u yourself is a better judge on your life than some book written 2000 years ago or some pope who doesn't even know your name -
hahaha ... I mean break up don't because the GF/ BF don't convert to your own religion ... that is mean ...Originally posted by the_don:aiyoh i first to disagree. so many reasons why pple break up or kenna rejected. some is for the better of the people involved loh. it really depends on individual 
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ah.... ic icOriginally posted by wei^yi:hahaha ... I mean break up don't because the GF/ BF don't convert to your own religion ... that is mean ...
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You can always call a Catholic priest and we can have the rite of exorcism.Originally posted by Icemoon:Just think lor, if you're kind who don't quite emphasize on demon/spirit possession then one day you see someone in that 'state'. Then what you do? Stunned and just stand there?
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The term in Chinese is Jiao4 Zong1.Originally posted by laurence82:btw wads the title Pope in Chinese? -
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hmmm ... just give that idiot a tight slap !!!
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Originally posted by Icemoon:
Just think lor, if you're kind who don't quite emphasize on demon/spirit possession then one day you see someone in that 'state'. Then what you do? Stunned and just stand there?
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You can always call a Catholic priest and we can have the rite of exorcism. [/b] -
By the time he arrives, the poor man mati liaoOriginally posted by SingaporeMacross:You can always call a Catholic priest and we can have the rite of exorcism. -
Never hear before. Should be Jiao4 Huang2 lah.Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:The term in Chinese is Jiao4 Zong1. -
Ya ya .. then you tell him "stop acting lah!"Originally posted by wei^yi:hmmm ... just give that idiot a tight slap !!! -
hmmm ... just give that idiot a tight slap
Tat is right ! Even catholic to a certain extent admit tat exorcists is used to calm the nerve of some superstitious scary cats. -
Who say cannot? By all means can.
But some things are good ideas and others are bad.
I'm sure there's really nothing stopping us from jumping off a bridge into an icy river, but I don't think that's a really good idea. -
Singapore only have Kallang River and Singapore River for you to jump nia ...Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:Who say cannot? By all means can.
But some things are good ideas and others are bad.
I'm sure there's really nothing stopping us from jumping off a bridge into an icy river, but I don't think that's a really good idea.
Seriously ... we have not many options ... -
honestly, IF i loved someone but he/she couldn't accept me because im not christian, then im better off without the bastard/Bitch
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Go ask a priest who does Chinese mass lah. lol.Originally posted by Icemoon:Never hear before. Should be Jiao4 Huang2 lah. -
Well I had a friend(female) who got dumped by her boyfriend(Christian), shortly after she had sex with him. His excuse for the break-up? Different religion. Yeah right.
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Freak !!!Originally posted by aRcTiC_sTaR:Well I had a friend(female) who got dumped by her boyfriend(Christian), shortly after she had sex with him. His excuse for the break-up? Different religion. Yeah right.
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Well, he seemed to be a nice guy at first, coS I know him in person too. But I didn't know that he was such a jerk... Anyway I'm quite disillusioned with some of my Christian friends. They ain't really into the religion, but they attend CEL juZ to have fun and to get to know girls. -__-
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Bo ko leng! Bo ko leng! That guy must die!Originally posted by aRcTiC_sTaR:Well I had a friend(female) who got dumped by her boyfriend(Christian), shortly after she had sex with him. His excuse for the break-up? Different religion. Yeah right.