is it possible for non-christians to be with christians?
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Lets make it very simple for u. Tis girl is the perfect girl for u but the only problem is she is a muslim.
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i'm a muslim n i am chinese (well..mixed indo)Originally posted by stupidissmart:Why don't u imagine it is a super chio caucasian model instead ? Not all muslim r malay u know... .
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hmmm..care to ask my bf abt. it ?Originally posted by stupidissmart:Lets make it very simple for u. Tis girl is the perfect girl for u but the only problem is she is a muslim.
he's simply has no problem at all that i'm a muslim
it depends on the person him/herself. -
Wat is his religion before ? Wat is his religion now ? Wat r your children religion ?
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Just a question, what is the consequence if a Muslim converts? Will his/her whole clan hunt him down with knives?
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Just how barbaric u think the Muslims can go in SG?Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:Just a question, what is the consequence if a Muslim converts? Will his/her whole clan hunt him down with knives?
Seriously.
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You won't see this in Singapore, that's for sure. But what's the worse that can happen?Originally posted by laurence82:Just how barbaric u think the Muslims can go in SG?
Eh, maybe if a Christian guy converts, his clan will come and knife him down? It works both ways I guess? What do you think? -
Definitely it wont come down to knifes and baseball bats, but there will be a lot of antipathy between two families.Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:You won't see this in Singapore, that's for sure. But what's the worse that can happen?
Eh, maybe if a Christian guy converts, his clan will come and knife him down? It works both ways I guess? What do you think?
At most will become like Romeo and Juliet..
One side will stand for freedom to love, one side will stand for god. How to reconcile this, seriously, passerbys wont have a clue. -
.Originally posted by laurence82:Definitely it wont come down to knifes and baseball bats, but there will be a lot of antipathy between two families.
At most will become like Romeo and Juliet..
One side will stand for freedom to love, one side will stand for god. How to reconcile this, seriously, passerbys wont have a clue.
Romeo must die.....
Ah well, such is life. -
he's a Catholic..now he's still Catholic.Originally posted by stupidissmart:Wat is his religion before ? Wat is his religion now ? Wat r your children religion ?
i told him, if we got married..however i will teach our children my religion. n he can also teach his. in the end..of course i hope my children would become Muslims, but i let them decide what's the best for them then. just like my parents did to me.
my dad is a Muslim n my mum was a Christian.
dun say i din have much troubles during my youth searching for God. i was born as a Muslim. but my mum was still a Christian back then. i was in a hard times, bcos my mum's family are most Christian, my mum's friends are Christian, even my friends at school were Christian. yes, they did told me to convert to Christian. as i was abt to convert, my dad said NO ! although my mum had said yes. i was abt. 12 year-old that time. so..there was i..12 - 15 y.o.kid..trying to search for God..who's God ? what's God ? still..until almost my last year at junior high school, still hasn't decided yet what religion that i belong. until...there was one time, i HAVE TO join 'pesantren kilat' (Islam term for retreat). i was..huh ??? i din even know how to pray 5 times a day !!! OMG !!! i din wanna go, but i HAVE TO, cos the school required all Muslim to go. i was learning how to pray in a short time... i did go for the retreat. must say that all of my Muslim friends n teachers are very nice n so helpful. and i felt so blessed that i did go for that retreat. i finally found what i was searching for for a long time. i finally accept Islam as my religion. not because of my dad told me to. but because i want to and i do believe it. and i am so content now that i am a Muslim. i dun care how people or my mum's family say that Islam is bad or Muslim are poor (yes, my relatives did say that). i know what's good for me n i know that i'm in the right way.
and oh...after junior high school ended, i studied in a Christian Private School (cos that school was n still is known as a very good school). so i also did learn abt. Christian. but at that moment i'm already a Muslim. n i din hv even a slight thought to convert to any other religion. it's ok to know abt. other religion, n they also teach good things.
at last...after i finished high school, my mum decided to convert to Islam. not because of my dad told her to. but because she wanted herself.. here we are now..become a Muslim family n i can say that i'm more than just content now
btw..my post has nothing to do with this thread i think.. i was just telling story abt. myself. and since i was raised in a family where my parents fm different religions, my parents never forbid me to marry non-Muslim. as long as he's a good guy n he's responsible n honest, my parents wouldn't mind and one more thing..he has to believe in God. i dun wanna marry any atheist for sure. -
my fren just broke up with bf recently due to this.. shes christian n he is not
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*pat pat faye*Originally posted by Faye Valentine:my fren just broke up with bf recently due to this.. shes christian n he is not
well..if it's for the best..
isn't the earlier they realise that they can't be together is better than if the feeling fall too deep n in the end still have to let go ?
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Looks like I found the topic for my research presentation.
But I guess the killer statmentment is always if God is LOVE why would He disapprove of two people who really love each other...
Had a hard time explaining to my friend sia...
Or the statement its not fair to say cannot or disapprove when the two really loves each other...
Than someone will say than is it fair from someone who is blameless, holy and almight to degrade himself to becoming a sinful mere mortal and die for the whole cmi race? Its not fair.
Than people will start to argue on that part. Well in the end I guess its going to be very hard to explain in the first place if the other party is never going to accept it.
I guess its faith or no faith in the end. Without faith all the reasons in the world can be given but to no avail cos acceptance is not there. So I hope that everyone will be abit more open to comments here lah. Try to take it in the poster's view point as well. Like that more info can be shared and we all can learn something.
My view point to the guy with the problem. Been there done that forget it lah. She want to like tt you LL liaos. Unless u have the conviction that one day she will understand what it means to be a chirstian and becomes one as well than I support you all the way go ahead. If not than dun bother lah. Seen too many failed attempts to know it will hurt more later on. Of cos I am not saying its not possible. No 1 knows the future except GOD.
BTW I am not bringing in predestined theory and all that. Too complex liaos...
Just my few cents worth of views...
(gets anti flame suit ready
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yup, from what i know RC does not require their spouse to convert.
Its only the Christians who must require their spouse to convert!
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A RC is still a Christian anyway..but of course the Protestants would lurve to prove otherwise.Originally posted by nightzip:yup, from what i know RC does not require their spouse to convert.
Its only the Christians who must require their spouse to convert!
Actually all along, i tot Catholics are stricter and require their spouses to be Christians as well. After sometime here, i see there is no way u are wrong. Evangelists more than ever, would love their spouses to be a fellow Christians. -
Without faith all the reasons in the world can be given but to no avail cos acceptance is not there
Without faith, people will believe in evidence and come to a rational conclusion. With faith, u can believe in anything and everything, including the wrong and ridiculous things.My view point to the guy with the problem. Been there done that forget it lah. She want to like tt you LL liaos. Unless u have the conviction that one day she will understand what it means to be a chirstian and becomes one as well than I support you all the way go ahead. If not than dun bother lah. Seen too many failed attempts to know it will hurt more later on. Of cos I am not saying its not possible. No 1 knows the future except GOD.
In short u should only go with a guy tat is likely to convert in future ? -
The labels say otherwise. Tian1 Zhu3 Jiao4 and Ji1 Du1 Jiao4Originally posted by laurence82:A RC is still a Christian anyway..but of course the Protestants would lurve to prove otherwise.
If you disagree, then find me the chinese label for Protestants.
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Still Jiao leh, aka sects or denominations...Originally posted by Icemoon:The labels say otherwise. Tian1 Zhu3 Jiao4 and Ji1 Du1 Jiao4
If you disagree, then find me the chinese label for Protestants.
Tian Zhu means god or the supreme being right? Then Ji Du stands for wad?
Anyway, hard to use Chinese language leh, like guo only mean country or state, but in English, state is used for countries as well as a part of a country with federal system. -
You talking rubbish or what? So Fo2 Jiao4 and Dao4 Jiao4 and even Hui2 Jiao2 are all sects or denominations?
Ji1 Du2 stands for Christ .... Ye2 Shu2 Ji1 Du2 is Jesus Christ. So Ji Du Jiao is Christianity lor.
Chinese is a rich language. If you mean state like Texas or Arizona, it is zhou1, not guo2. In China, there is sheng3 (eg. Guangdong Province). Those familiar with Romance of the Three Kingdoms will remember the liu4 jun4 ba1 shi2 yi1 zhou2 of the State of Wu. English is the hard language here as we can see it is more general in the definition.
Anyway it seems to be a fact Christian and Catholic are well segregated labels when they ask you to fill in your faith.
And if there is a meeting of religious leaders, you think the Catholic leaders will say "aiya, let the Protestant represent us la, we are all christians anyway .. " -
ur head ah
i noe tian zu jiao is diff from ji du jiao, like catholic diff from christians, but the label wont be fair wad, coz catholics are also christians what..
appropriately shld be catholics and protestants, but wat the heck is chinese for protestants anyway, thats why the chinese language is inadequate to express some christians terms
i dont noe what jiao, but i noe sect chief is called jiao zu...bwahahaha..
yalar, like i said, state has two meaning, but in chinese is called guo or zhou..thats what i mean lar... -
i noe tian zu jiao is diff from ji du jiao, like catholic diff from christians, but the label wont be fair wad, coz catholics are also christians what..
Very good argument. It is like saying we are all one big happy family.
appropriately shld be catholics and protestants, but wat the heck is chinese for protestants anyway, thats why the chinese language is inadequate to express some christians terms
Yar, does anyone know? I also dunno the chinese label for Protestants.
i dont noe what jiao, but i noe sect chief is called jiao zu...bwahahaha..
So the Pope is even more elevated than a sect chief. He is sect emperor - Jiao4 Huang2. -
btw wads the title Pope in Chinese?
Hmm masada? Is that the hill fortress the Zionists hide and the Romans laid siege to? -
Well why shouldn't it be?Originally posted by Icemoon:Very good argument. It is like saying we are all one big happy family. No need to be so petty.
Anyway, in the national registry(or whatever you call it), Catholics are also classified as Christians. At least that was my experience when registering for the NRIC. -
Eh, maybe if a Christian guy converts, his clan will come and knife him down? It works both ways I guess? What do you think?
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ai yo ... this will be an everlasting debate lah !
just don't be too mad about converting then everything will be fine.
let people choose and decide for themself.
If someone reject another coz of religious matters, that person is heartless.
Religions don't teach us to reject others who are different religion from us.
Am I right to say this ?