Historical information on buses
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hi all
I was privillaged enough to visit Soon lee depot recently. At the lobby , i found old pix of Jurong bus park. this inspired my past memeories trip back in time for this post.
JURONG BUS PARK.
Before Soon lee bus park, there was a Jurong bus depot. It was in charge of two bus park faciltiies. Jurong Bus depot and Penjuru Jurong bus park. Jurong Depot had full depot faciltiies and was situated next to the old Jurong bus interchange. for those who still remember where Jurong Bus Int and the depot was, will acknowledged that it must had been easy to deploy buses from the depot to the interchange since they were right next door to each other. note that a petrol stn that was probbabaly for buses to use still stands today but ebing used by Shell.
A smaller bus park was built at Penjuru rd. i do believe it was only a bus park n had no workshop and depot facilities. Service 143 used to terminate at this bus park. The terminus was referred to as teban gardens Bus terminal. I hope someone can clear up if the bus went into the depot or had a roadside bus terminus facilites in this Penjuru area. (surhirman..=).)
Jurong Depot besides providing buses for the Jurong Ind services also had serve for fleets of bus services calling at Clemtni int, kent ridege ter or Bouna Vista under its control. Presumbly, buses from the penjuru bus park (nearer to Clementi, kent ridge and Bouna Vista ter) were despacthed out.
documents (as in busway magazines in NUS lib) show thatservice 92 : Clementi - Paya lebar airport was operated by Jurong. Svc 146 with its LO2x yeah? JR confirmed. I've always wondered how 146 gets lo2x...ah hah.
Service 33 (kent Ridge) also JR. Service 200 (kent ridge) also JR.< For those who wish to know a further significance with regards to today of this fact may PM me, it is because of JRDEP operating the west side services ard the NUS area that till today....certainly a glad reminder of the past for myself >
note that 92 33 and 200 all got merc OF1417s hawke which most of us will gladly agree are JRDEp type buses. 176 Clemtni - World trade Centre were one of the first services to use the Merc OF1417 of JRDEP. also bus 78: Clementi - Queensway Circus (Queensway Shopping centre)) was the first service to use Merc OF1417s. i will make a guess. JRDEP . Always wonder why u used to see merc OF1417 on 209? JRDEP buses. proof? busway i saw 209 under JR.
even bus 188 whcih runs from ulu pandan terminus then had JRDEp merc but were NZMB mercs.
it is believed that 95 and 96 were even under JR in 2000.
I would like to point out an interesting JRDEP residents. Bus Svc M1 Science park - Bouna Vista MRT in 2000. I think when the service became 92, it was still under JR. it is proven in busway that M1 was under JRDEP. Further proof comes in the form of the Dennis Darts on M1 having been put on service with bus 182 which u all know is a JRDEP service for sure. for those who have seen the darts on 182, u may rest assure darts were once in JRDEP..hahah
Eventually i guess the bus fleets got too big for JRDEP and penjuru bus park to handle. So came the need for mega big bus depot. this is Soon lee Depot of today.
but wait, there is more, where did jurong Depot come from then? it is beleived by the article writer that jurong Depot when new new was a merger of Alexandra bus Depot and Woodlands Bus depot. but i cant be sure. of course folks will recall that Alexandra Depot (probably remants of the Hock lee bus Depot then) and Woodlands bus depot are the true orginal SBS new new depots when SBS started operations as SBS 1978 pte ltd.
ZYXam i that old?
Errata: please read article with Penjuru bus park as (Penjuru) Jurong bus depot. and jurong bus Depot to be changed to Jurong bus park. hey one's memories do fade with time and so uh get forgetful and type mistakes. so its Jurong bus park next to bus int and Jurong bus Depot in teban gardens there.
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Yes u are old.
Just to make it straight, 143 terminated at Teban Gardens Terminal, which is basically Jurong Depot.
Jurong Bus Park was situated at the former Jurong Interchange at Jurong Port Rd.
There's only TWO depot/bus park in the area
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Jurong Interchange
I think of all era, that Interchange still holds the number one record for number of bus svs
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there was this feeder service 372 used to be run by TIBS in the heydays of the early 90s.. now known as 903.
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Originally posted by service_238:
Yes u are old.
Just to make it straight, 143 terminated at Teban Gardens Terminal, which is basically Jurong Depot.
Jurong Bus Park was situated at the former Jurong Interchange at Jurong Port Rd.
There's only TWO depot/bus park in the area
essentialy i got the two mixed up. sorry
ZYX
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Originally posted by Apex-LW'21:
there was this feeder service 372 used to be run by TIBS in the heydays of the early 90s.. now known as 903.
it was handed from SBS if I'm not wrong -
Originally posted by sbst275:
Jurong Interchange
I think of all era, that Interchange still holds the number one record for number of bus svs
Indeed. in the mid eighties, they even had an extension of bus int excercise just to hold the many new svcs that keep being introduced then. berths were added on a second concourse. this was to relieve the crazy load of so many services calling at the berths on one concourse.
i called the second concourse the new new part of int. hahaha. big contrsuction work gg on then in the int. it is with the second concourse added Jurong int feels rather big to me.
ZYX -
Originally posted by sbst275:
it was handed from SBS if I'm not wrongi wish to point out that this bus 372 is a TIBS orginal service. it was never run by SBS
Essentially introduced after the bt batok services were intro and before the Eunos services. i guess.
However if u think Woodlands new town was once ran by SBS of course u r right lah. With the Double decker bus on 178 and 169, who can forget right?ZYX
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I wonder how busy was Jurong Interchange back then during peak hours, as compared to Boon Lay Interchange today..
With an increase in population and the shift of some of Jurong Int services to Boon Lay, I believe the numbers would add up to around the same...
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Originally posted by ZYX2005:
hi all
I was privillaged enough to visit Soon lee depot recently. At the lobby , i found old pix of Jurong bus park. this inspired my past memeories trip back in time for this post.
JURONG BUS PARK.
Before Soon lee bus park, there was a Jurong bus depot. It was in charge of two bus park faciltiies. Jurong Bus depot and Penjuru Jurong bus park. Jurong Depot had full depot faciltiies and was situated next to the old Jurong bus interchange. for those who still remember where Jurong Bus Int and the depot was, will acknowledged that it must had been easy to deploy buses from the depot to the interchange since they were right next door to each other. note that a petrol stn that was probbabaly for buses to use still stands today but ebing used by Shell.
A smaller bus park was built at Penjuru rd. i do believe it was only a bus park n had no workshop and depot facilities. Service 143 used to terminate at this bus park. The terminus was referred to as teban gardens Bus terminal. I hope someone can clear up if the bus went into the depot or had a roadside bus terminus facilites in this Penjuru area. (surhirman..=).)
Jurong Depot besides providing buses for the Jurong Ind services also had serve for fleets of bus services calling at Clemtni int, kent ridege ter or Bouna Vista under its control. Presumbly, buses from the penjuru bus park (nearer to Clementi, kent ridge and Bouna Vista ter) were despacthed out.
documents (as in busway magazines in NUS lib) show thatservice 92 : Clementi - Paya lebar airport was operated by Jurong. Svc 146 with its LO2x yeah? JR confirmed. I've always wondered how 146 gets lo2x...ah hah.
Service 33 (kent Ridge) also JR. Service 200 (kent ridge) also JR.< For those who wish to know a further significance with regards to today of this fact may PM me, it is because of JRDEP operating the west side services ard the NUS area that till today....certainly a glad reminder of the past for myself >
note that 92 33 and 200 all got merc OF1417s hawke which most of us will gladly agree are JRDEp type buses. 176 Clemtni - World trade Centre were one of the first services to use the Merc OF1417 of JRDEP. also bus 78: Clementi - Queensway Circus (Queensway Shopping centre)) was the first service to use Merc OF1417s. i will make a guess. JRDEP . Always wonder why u used to see merc OF1417 on 209? JRDEP buses. proof? busway i saw 209 under JR.
even bus 188 whcih runs from ulu pandan terminus then had JRDEp merc but were NZMB mercs.
it is believed that 95 and 96 were even under JR in 2000.
I would like to point out an interesting JRDEP residents. Bus Svc M1 Science park - Bouna Vista MRT in 2000. I think when the service became 92, it was still under JR. it is proven in busway that M1 was under JRDEP. Further proof comes in the form of the Dennis Darts on M1 having been put on service with bus 182 which u all know is a JRDEP service for sure. for those who have seen the darts on 182, u may rest assure darts were once in JRDEP..hahah
Eventually i guess the bus fleets got too big for JRDEP and penjuru bus park to handle. So came the need for mega big bus depot. this is Soon lee Depot of today.
but wait, there is more, where did jurong Depot come from then? it is beleived by the article writer that jurong Depot when new new was a merger of Alexandra bus Depot and Woodlands Bus depot. but i cant be sure. of course folks will recall that Alexandra Depot (probably remants of the Hock lee bus Depot then) and Woodlands bus depot are the true orginal SBS new new depots when SBS started operations as SBS 1978 pte ltd.
ZYXam i that old?
Errata: please read article with Penjuru bus park as (Penjuru) Jurong bus depot. and jurong bus Depot to be changed to Jurong bus park. hey one's memories do fade with time and so uh get forgetful and type mistakes. so its Jurong bus park next to bus int and Jurong bus Depot in teban gardens there.
Wow.. by the way u r there for..? Audit check? Btw, if I am nt wrong there is a few lanes of the petrol kiosk beside the current Shell station.
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Clementi bus services were partially JRBP and BBDEP if I am not wrong. I remember MBOF1413 Soon Chow buses being deployed on short haul routes like services 96, 99, 205, 282, 284, 285, 287, SS2. Services 105, 209, SS3 should be under BBDEP, it had Volvo B57 and occasional Albion Vikings. Service 99 also had LO2x too. For service 92 I am not so sure, it had MBOF1417 Hawke as well as Albion Vikings (could be from HGDEP??). Service 146 should be dual TP/JRBP, it had LO2x. The short haul routes eventually became under BBDEP somewhere in 1990, where Volvo B57 and Albion Vikings were deployed. Service 99 then had the LAs.
Kent Ridge bus services were also under JRBP in the past. Services 33, 200, 201 had MBOF1413s too, subsequently replaced by MBOF1417 NZMB. Service 33 then had Volvo MK2 DMs (I suppose depot transfer??). Remembered service 201 was withdrawn and replaced by new service 151, it was dual HGDEP/JRBP. Somewhere in 1999, services 151 and 200 came under BBDEP too.
I think Buona Vista bus services were never under JRBP, it was all the while under BBDEP if I am not wrong, only had Volvo B57 and Albion Vikings on those short haul services like 95, 191, 202.
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Originally posted by ZYX2005:
Indeed. in the mid eighties, they even had an extension of bus int excercise just to hold the many new svcs that keep being introduced then. berths were added on a second concourse. this was to relieve the crazy load of so many services calling at the berths on one concourse.
i called the second concourse the new new part of int. hahaha. big contrsuction work gg on then in the int. it is with the second concourse added Jurong int feels rather big to me.
ZYX
1990 rationalisation, 10 & 165 never entered Jurong New Towns again lol -
Originally posted by ZYX2005:
i wish to point out that this bus 372 is a TIBS orginal service. it was never run by SBS
Essentially introduced after the bt batok services were intro and before the Eunos services. i guess.
However if u think Woodlands new town was once ran by SBS of course u r right lah. With the Double decker bus on 178 and 169, who can forget right?ZYX
Sv 169 double deck appeared in 1981 or 1982 SBS's annual report wo -
Originally posted by sbst275:
1990 rationalisation, 10 & 165 never entered Jurong New Towns again lol
Service 196 also.To make things worse, service 10 further cutback to Kent Ridge in 1999
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talking abt tat
There was Sv 240, 241, 242 (old), 244, 245, 246, 247 (Merged w/ 98 in 1990s), 248, 249, 250, 251, 252, 253, 254, 255, 257 & those sp svs 404, 405, 406...
wat happened to 450?
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Originally posted by sbst275:
talking abt tat
There was Sv 240, 241, 242 (old), 244, 245, 246, 247 (Merged w/ 98 in 1990s), 248, 249, 250, 251, 252, 253, 254, 255, 257 & those sp svs 404, 405, 406...
wat happened to 450?
Is 450 the one from Jurong to Pasir Laba?
Anyway , Svc 950 , 951 , 952 , uses Hispano DAF's back then ....
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Originally posted by Volvo Olympian:
Is 450 the one from Jurong to Pasir Laba?
Anyway , Svc 950 , 951 , 952 , uses Hispano DAF's back then ....
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anyway wayback history on svc 57... in the 1980s.. it was a changi Airport svc to commonwealth drive (roadside terminal) later in the late 80s.. sv 57 was Bishan to Sin Ming Dr (loop)-- if i'm not wrong , certain route sectors of sv 57 is now part of feeder svc 410. now.. Sv 57 plies from Bishan to Bt Merah
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139 used to ply Lengkok Bahru and Whampoa Estate with LO3x. remember taking 9045 and 9066 full route. bukit merah to toa payoh. loved the tiny roads. esp ah hood road and lengkok bahru.
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Originally posted by ZYX2005:
i wish to point out that this bus 372 is a TIBS orginal service. it was never run by SBS
Essentially introduced after the bt batok services were intro and before the Eunos services. i guess.
However if u think Woodlands new town was once ran by SBS of course u r right lah. With the Double decker bus on 178 and 169, who can forget right?ZYX
according to 1982 Bus Guide, the old sv 372 was under original SBS at start. TIBS started operation in 1983 onwards.. -
Originally posted by SBS9888Y:
139 used to ply Lengkok Bahru and Whampoa Estate with LO3x. remember taking 9045 and 9066 full route. bukit merah to toa payoh. loved the tiny roads. esp ah hood road and lengkok bahru.
not forgetting the NAC LO2xes on 139.. -
Originally posted by TIB1018B:
Service 196 also.To make things worse, service 10 further cutback to Kent Ridge in 1999
Service 196 did make its way to Boon Lay interchange when it opened in July 1990. The service was cut short to Buona Vista terminal in June 1992 and then extended to Clementi interchange in Nov 1992. -
Originally posted by ZYX2005:
A smaller bus park was built at Penjuru rd. i do believe it was only a bus park n had no workshop and depot facilities. Service 143 used to terminate at this bus park. The terminus was referred to as teban gardens Bus terminal. I hope someone can clear up if the bus went into the depot or had a roadside bus terminus facilites in this Penjuru area. (surhirman..=).)
The service 143 buses entered into Jurong Depot. -
Originally posted by tranquilice:
The service 143 buses entered into Jurong Depot.
Goodness! Where have you been?? -
Originally posted by TIB1018B:
Clementi bus services were partially JRBP and BBDEP if I am not wrong. I remember MBOF1413 Soon Chow buses being deployed on short haul routes like services 96, 99, 205, 282, 284, 285, 287, SS2. Services 105, 209, SS3 should be under BBDEP, it had Volvo B57 and occasional Albion Vikings. Service 99 also had LO2x too. For service 92 I am not so sure, it had MBOF1417 Hawke as well as Albion Vikings (could be from HGDEP??). Service 146 should be dual TP/JRBP, it had LO2x. The short haul routes eventually became under BBDEP somewhere in 1990, where Volvo B57 and Albion Vikings were deployed. Service 99 then had the LAs.
Kent Ridge bus services were also under JRBP in the past. Services 33, 200, 201 had MBOF1413s too, subsequently replaced by MBOF1417 NZMB. Service 33 then had Volvo MK2 DMs (I suppose depot transfer??). Remembered service 201 was withdrawn and replaced by new service 151, it was dual HGDEP/JRBP. Somewhere in 1999, services 151 and 200 came under BBDEP too.
I think Buona Vista bus services were never under JRBP, it was all the while under BBDEP if I am not wrong, only had Volvo B57 and Albion Vikings on those short haul services like 95, 191, 202.
all correct
excpet that svc 20 and 90 are stated as JRDEp in busway
and these op from bouna vista ter.